Out in the Mountains Speaking with the Voice that We’ve Been Given An Interview with Howdy Russell Sage Russell Howard Russell, whose middle name be- came “The Openly Gay Man Running for the Vermont State Senate” during his campaign two years ago, spent some time in mid-July talking to 0ITM’s Sage Rus- sell (no relation) about his second try for the Senate, the need for openly gay people in politics, and the values that motivate him. Some excerpts from that conversa- uon. 01'1" M : Why did you decide to run again? Howard Russell: Well, to be real honest there are a lot of days I ask that myself (laughs). It was a long-terrn struggle, and finally a few months ago, in March or April, I finally made the decision not to full. I just decided I didn’t have the en- ergy, I couldn’t do it. And as soon as I made up my mind not to run, immediately everything began turning around, and I began to really question that decision. I made the decision not to run and then things began to fall into place that made me feel like I should. OIT M : Can you be more specific? Russell: Certain people are not running. Basically the openings are there. I felt like there was a real opportunity. And people stepped forward right at that particular time to encourage me to run, people who had worked on my campaign two years ago. Having those people come forward and say, “You know, it’s completely OK whatever you decide, but I just want to tell you, I would love to do it again,” made a huge difference to me. And the is- sues that made me decide to run the first time, they’re still there by and large. A lot of my work is with low income people, is with children, is with families, and I feel that now more than ever those people need advocates. It’s a real scary time. I do think there has been and continues to be a real turning toward the right. And I think the people who have strong beliefs about caring for people who are more vulner- able in our society, about civil rights, about progressive tax reform, about ba- sically empowering people who’ve been disempowered, have got to stand up and speak out. OITM: How is this campaign different from two years ago? Russell: Well, it started slower, partly be- cause we started organizing later. It’s also very different in that I’m being taken se- riously from the get-go this time. Last time there were months and months of trying to convince people that this was go- ing to be a serious campaign. We had to run a full-fledged campaign just to get through the primary. Two years ago the primary support for me to run was coming from the gay community. This time, it was the state Democratic party, and county Democrats, as well as the gay community. The Democrats were saying, “We want strong candidates and your name came up at the top of the list.” OITM: Are you getting more attention from the media? Russell: I’m getting less attention from the media, but it doesn’t really surprise me actually. It’s probably because we’re starting later. But it’s also because it’s not the first time. I got a lot more media atten- tion last time than other Senate candidates did, partly because I was rtmning as an openly gay candidate. I think partly it says something about the movement in this state that the media’s saying, “We’ve got a Gay Rights Bill, we’ve got another gay elected representative.” Sort of like, “So what’s the big deal?” This time there are more and more and more middle of the road people who are saying, “Yes (he’s gay), but I basically want to hear what else he has to say.” Which is exactly where we need to get to. Although some ‘ people have said, “Now that the Gay Rights Bill has passed, are you going to be talking about being gay?” It makes me laugh when I hear that. As though I’m go- ing to go back into the closet now? I think people who wonder if I’m going to be quieter about being gay didn’t hear what I was saying two years ago. That it was not just that gay people have got to come out to pass thw Civil Rights Bill. I think the most important message that I was giving was that we have to speak with the voices that we were given. That if you are a gay ‘ person and you’re not allowed to use your life and your experience, then the power of your message is diminished. I used it a lot in talking about being pro-choice. How can I talk about being pro-choice without talking about being gay? 'I'hey’re so interwoven for me. I’m not just a liber- ated man saying, well of course all wom- en should have the right to make choices over their body. I believe that. 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